Tom L Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 As I had reported in my White Bass Bonanza report, the most productive fly to catch white bass on the Wolf R on my first trip was a craft fur jig similar to this one in the picture. With that in mind, I had tied up some craft fur flies using jig hooks, dumbbell eyes, and CCG coated head to test on my second trip. The flies looked very similar to the craft fur jig (see the pictures), acted like the craft fur jig, and as effective as the craft fur jig. Would you consider them Jigs or Flies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gillio Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 With so many materials being used in tying these days, and lead being a staple in the tying of streamers, I'm not sure there is a difference. My father's favorite fly was a pinky jig. I guess he considered them one in the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 its a weighted fly. the only difference to me is a jig is poured on the hook . a weighted fly is more deadly as it can made to precisely to ones fall rate, hook size and type . rich mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 neither a fly, nor a jig but rather a "Flig" Them: Hey, what did you catch all those white bass on? You: A size 4 Flig Them: wtf? You: Big Grin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Marabou and craft fur jigs from 1/100 to 1/32 oz on a fly rod are some of my most productive patterns for a multitude of gamefish. Trout, crappie, white bass, panfish, bass, etc. Wouldn't go fly fishing without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 When you're outfishing everyone around you it's called good karma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Where is my like button? When you're outfishing everyone around you it's called good karma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene f collins Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Where is my like button? X2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gillio Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 neither a fly, nor a jig but rather a "Flig" Them: Hey, what did you catch all those white bass on? You: A size 4 Flig Them: wtf? You: Big Grin I like the idea of a Flig. It is hard to argue against either jigging or swinging a Flig. I'm sure it works well under a flig float also (the true meaning of FnF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Tom, I appreciate your concern over naming your babies. This argument goes better with beer. It is a Clouser. Bob Clouser's deep minnow got put through the analysis machine years ago and was given the dirty name "jig fly." The dust never settled. There's an old guard out there that condemns any fly adulterated by a few wraps of lead or lead substitute. Nymphs to them are an abomination. Split shot is a creation of the devil. For a less extreme view, consider this. An old fishing catalog would offer dry flies, wet flies, streamers, nymphs, bass bugs, poppers, spoons, spinners, pork rind, and lures. (I may have missed some like foam creations or offering with a lot of epoxy or CCG modeling.) All to be presented with a fly rod. If we stick with this breakdown, the argument goes away; but the beer remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom L Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Thanks everyone for the input. There are quite a few ideas here. neither a fly, nor a jig but rather a "Flig" A "FLIG" is a good term for this Fly/Jig. Like it a lot. Marabou and craft fur jigs from 1/100 to 1/32 oz on a fly rod are some of my most productive patterns for a multitude of gamefish. Trout, crappie, white bass, panfish, bass, etc. Wouldn't go fly fishing without them. I will have to start doing the same, after seeing how effective they were. Tom,I appreciate your concern over naming your babies. This argument goes better with beer. It is a Clouser. Bob Clouser's deep minnow got put through the analysis machine years ago and was given the dirty name "jig fly." The dust never settled. There's an old guard out there that condemns any fly adulterated by a few wraps of lead or lead substitute. Nymphs to them are an abomination. Split shot is a creation of the devil.For a less extreme view, consider this. An old fishing catalog would offer dry flies, wet flies, streamers, nymphs, bass bugs, poppers, spoons, spinners, pork rind, and lures. (I may have missed some like foam creations or offering with a lot of epoxy or CCG modeling.) All to be presented with a fly rod. If we stick with this breakdown, the argument goes away; but the beer remains. Thanks for the insight, Mike. Only disagree on one thing, "the beer won't remain for long also". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim A Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Fly, jig, whatever, that tan over white with red will slay albies in the Fall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm M Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Assume you are fishing a streamer, if you put a split shot on above a hook even if it's touching the knot , most would consider it a split shot rig. If you clamped the split shot on the hook then I guess it would be a weighted fly. if you started with a hook with lead molded on the shank and tied a streamer on it, then it would be a jig. If you caught fish on it, I would consider it a success and let it go at that. The most important thing would be is how the placement of the lead affected how the lure worked , not what it's called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom L Posted June 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 These two color schemes have been very productive on Lake Geneva. Baby Perch & Sunset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gillio Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Tom, nice fligs! Are those jigheads almost standup? maybe 45 degree angle? If so what kind are they and where did you find them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom L Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 John, those are Wapsi dumbbell eyes on a 60 deg jig hook and coated over with CCG. Don't know if they would stand up, but they do dive head first like a jig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gillio Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Thanks Tom. Looked like a jighead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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