Ryan Kral Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hey guys. Instead of tying these like normal, I started the first stack of hair right against a thread damm at the eye. That way, as I stacked the layers of hair towards the bend, I was pushing the hair back towards the eye, causing the hair to cup a little bit. Just seeing if I could get a little more pop out of deer hair. This obviously isn't finished, and a bit sloppy, but just screwing around. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Looks great ! Though I'm no expert on deer hair, not sure I've seen that orientation before. Let us know what you think once you get a chance to work the finished fly on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom L Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Interesting and creative way to tye deerhairs (Tenkara style). Yes, show us the finished fly and let us know how it fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 tried to force myself to tye the other day, couldn't do it. Grabbed up a box of flys and went fish'n, interesting shape, cup faced popper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim A Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Showing your ingenuity, Ryan. Keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wright Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Looks interesting. Definitely shows us the finished work. Deer hair scares me. ;-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just a thought. Suppose this technique turns out to produce bugs that outperform those tied with standard back to front spinning. Since front to back may be clumsy for knots and applying material, one can get the desired effect by clamping the eye of the hook in the vise and tying normally. (Righties left to right. Lefties right to left.) No problem with straight shank hooks and a rotating vise. Even with a non rotating vise, one would adapt quickly to tying with a top view instead of a side view. I am also looking forward to seeing the final product and hearing how it performs in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dodge Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Interesting. I'm thinking you're going to have to add a foam disk right behind the eye and inside the cup to get the pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Interesting. I'm thinking you're going to have to add a foam disk right behind the eye and inside the cup to get the pop. Good point. A little RTV, epoxy, or Softex in the cup might be needed to firm it up. But it might be fine without it. (Maybe an earplug would work, Terry. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I did use some hard as nails on the inside cup, just to firm it up a bit. Took it out yesterday, and it popped. I was very pleased! The hair basically ended up being pushed back, so it didn't keep the cupped shape, but became a large disk of hair, that moved a lot of water, and still really popped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I am waiting to see what this critter looks like as a finished fly. (Being a minimalist I hope all you did was add a squirrel hair tail. The rest-- 3-D Eyes, Whiskers, Hackle Skirt, Flaired Hackle Legs, Etc. Etc.-- are Eye Candy that don't do much for the fish though fishermen like them. At least they increase wind resistance and give you a better workout.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted June 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Here you go Mike. Not as simplistic as what you like, but still simple. I agree with you though, all my foam blockhead poppers are just squirrel hair tail and the block, thats it. Not the best pic, but you can see how the body was pushed back after fishing, which caused it to move even more water. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Thanks. I like it. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a frog wearing a tutu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted June 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Tutu Popper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Seriously, when was the last time you saw a frog wearing a tutu? When the cross dressing Kermit sneaked into Miss Piggy's closet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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