Rob G Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 September 22nd, Sunday Central Illinois Outing on the Lower Vermilion River system. We will be fishing the Middlefork, the Saltfork, and possibly the Northfork branches of the lower Vermilion River system. Wading will be available and I will be more than happy to run a shuttle for those that are wanting to canoe or kayak. I should be able to give you more information as to water depth as the date draws nearer. We will be meeting at the Pit Stop restaurant, 500 N Oakwood Rd. Oakwood, IL. on the south side of Interstate 74, exit, #206 at 8:30 AM.If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me by PM or post here. Quote
Fredmo Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 Oooo, I want to come. Sundays are tough, other commitments. I'll start working on substitute for me. I'd like to float if it's possible to get there and there's enough water. Quote
Rob G Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Posted September 13, 2013 Norm, glad to hear you might be interested. Fred, I'll get you a water report next week but it is doubtful you could float the Middlefork because it is so low at this time. The Salt Fork might be a possibility. Quote
George Monahan Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Thanks, I plan to be there. I joined the Smallmouth Alliance a few months ago and have not yet had the opportunity to meet other members. I've fly-fished the Middle Fork for nearly 10 years and welcome the opportunity to meet other smallie fanatics. George Quote
Rob G Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Posted September 19, 2013 George, look forward to meeting you and hopefully you can share some of your knowledge and expertise with a few of our members that attend this outing. Quote
Rob G Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Posted September 19, 2013 Fred and others, I checked on river conditions today for both Salt Fork and Middle Fork Rivers and both not surprisingly are quite low and clear. Excellent wading conditions but the Middle Fork would be impossible to float. The Salt Fork IMO would also be difficult to float at this time as well. I'm not saying it can't be done but I'm afraid you would get tired of picking up canoe or kayak and dragging it over gravel bars or where normally you can float around downed trees, now it will be more work to get by them. If you're still game for a float, I will put you on the deepest sections. It's a shame this outing is never scheduled earlier in the year since then we know you will have a nice float. By August it is hit or miss depending on the rainfall and we have not been getting a lot of rain down this way. Quote
Norm M Posted September 19, 2013 Report Posted September 19, 2013 got the day off work, I'll be there unless kidnapped by aliens. Quote
Fredmo Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 I'll plan to wade. Got a 5-yr olds birthday party early afternoon, so I'm guessing the Middle Fork is quick to get to. Just need someone to point to the area more likely to be productive. A HS classmate was at my 50th reunion this summer, told me he fly fishes in Conn. This week I received a couple of flies he thought might work on Smallies. Anxious to try them out. Quote
Rob G Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Posted September 20, 2013 Fred, will you be there for breakfast ? If so I'll get you set up then, if not then let me know and I'll get you directions beforehand. Would love to see your friend's flies as well. Quote
Fredmo Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 I'll plan on being there early, like to get over to the river before the fish wake up. But breakfast is always good. Is this a new or different place? Seems they tore down the place we used to meet. As far as my friends flies, one looks a lot like some we tied. The other is more like what I use on a spinning rod. But I'll bring and probably try them, so i can report to him. Quote
Colt Johnson Posted September 22, 2013 Report Posted September 22, 2013 My dad and I will be there for breakfast and fishing. Colt Quote
Rob G Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Posted September 23, 2013 We had a nice turnout for our outing this year. Since we're well off the beaten path down here in east central Illinois, I never expect big numbers but we had 8 of us that showed up for breakfast and fished. We spread people out over the Middle Fork and Salt Fork rivers and were faced with a true Bluebird sky kind of a day. Bright sun, little wind, and not a cloud in the sky, all of which makes for pleasant wading but unfortunately can make for tough fishing conditions during the middle of the day especially when the water is so low. Water temps continue to fall as the clear chilly nights are starting to take their toll. At least that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. I caught about a dozen smallmouth and one spotted bass after several hours of wading but no size whatsoever, lots of dinks. The better quality fish remained hidden all day. The saving grace was that if you're not going to catch much, then at least you had a beautiful day to enjoy the nature, the scenery and meet new friends. Not bad at all. Quote
Colt Johnson Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Rob, Thanks a ton for hosting us. We were more than satisfied, and the "dinks" were a blast on 3wt. rods. I fished a 6'6" 3wt. Kabuto rod and my dad fished an 8'0" 3wt. Elkhorn rod. We ended up catching about a dozen smallies, a dozen rock bass, and a couple dozen pumpkinseeds and chubs. Lots of action all day, but nothing huge. Fish were caught on #10 leeches, #8 clousers, #8 poppers, #10 hoppers, and #10 buggers. My 4 year old daughter helped paint these poppers, which turned out to be pretty productive. The pumpkinseeds, while smaller, rival any trout for their colorful markings. The most exciting fish came from a series of shallow pools (maybe 2.5' deep) spaced between riffles. There was grass along the far side. It just looked like the perfect spot for a hopper. As per Rob's advice before we left breakfast, I tied a number 10 hopper on and about 6 casts later it landed right in the middle of one of the pools. Within a couple seconds it was smashed by a 13" smallie. He just nailed it. It was cool seeing him hit a fly that I associate with trout primarily. He made a trout's take look boring. And I saw the whole thing. Thanks again Rob! Colt Quote
Fredmo Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 George M, a newer member of ISA who has fished the Middle Fork a lot, and I went to a likely looking area, lots of holes, but apparently either our flies were too big or we were too noisy or something. George got a large mouth that I pictured on my iphone. I'd show it if I could figure out how. From Colt's account, my flies may have been too big for the things hitting my hoppers. We each caught a dink, had a few others try, but when I had to get going @ 12:30 not much to show. It was a beautiful day and now I'm better acquainted with the river. I got to the 5-yr old granddaughter's birthday party, very late. I don't think they had missed me much anyway. We need to return to this area next year earlier, when water is higher, assuming it ever rains again. Neat thing about the day was we had folks from Chicago, Kankakee, Peoria, Bloomington, Champaign-Urbana and Danville. Almost everyone had to travel a bit. Ask Rob about the great breakfast at the Pit Stop, or whatever it was called. Quote
Colt Johnson Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Ask Rob about the great breakfast at the Pit Stop, or whatever it was called. Ha. It was nice to meet you Fred. I look forward to getting together with you guys again sometime. Quote
Rob G Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Posted September 23, 2013 Colt, thanks for posting the photos and yea, those long eared sunfish are colorful. Glad you had a nice time. Fred, didn't you think the Pit Stop breakfast sure tasted a lot like McDonalds breakfast food. Ha You guys probably will never let me set up the food anymore after last year's pizza that was supposed to be delivered to us at the Bloominton fire station but ended up at the fire station near Peoria. I'm not sure if there would be any interest but the Kickapoo State Park is near by and both tent-only and RV camping is available in case some would want to come for the weekend. Or next time we could arrange a cook out after you guys come off the water, I could have some burgers and brats waiting for all. Something to think about anyway. Quote
John Gillio Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds like you guys had a good time. I've been wanting to fish that area for many years and just haven't gotten there. It is high on the bucket list. I hope to join you on next years trip. The camping thing sounds fun in itself. Those are some pretty sunfish Rob. They rival anything in any water. Quote
Rob G Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Posted September 24, 2013 John, would love to have you down next year. Colt, I'll toss in another photo of a colorful longear sunfish, this one caught on a spun deer hair fly. Quote
John Gillio Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 I love tossing the three weight. It will definitely make the trip with me. Quote
Colt Johnson Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 Rob, I am reminded of the following quote when I see those pumpkinseeds: "Maybe your stature as a fly fisherman isn't determined by how big a trout you can catch, but by how small a trout you can catch without being disappointed"-John Gierach Quote
Bart Durham Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 I wanted to make this outing badly but my schedule did not cooperate. The colorful photos of Colt's bluegill made me think of one I caught on 11 Point River this summer and photographed: Quote
Norm M Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 where I fished the keys were staying out of the water as much as possible, making longer casts to the water, shade and some depth to the water. in the shallow skinny stuff if there was a little slot or depression with a fair amount of current, I got smallmouth, albeit small ones. in the deeper water I got a bit bigger smallmouth, nothing over 15 inches, a channel cat, hooked three musky, landed 2 lost one and the rattlebait to a bite off. I think I had an advantage with the spin rod as I didn't need room for a back cast, sometimes I was closer to the trees behind than the water. rattlebaits primarily, bandit 200 crank, worked stop and go against the current, bumping as many bigger rocks as possible and a 1/0 weighted keeper hook with the old Berkley power pulse worm. I didn't see another soul until I was taking the waders off back at the car. got to meet some new folks, other folks I don't see often, fish some water other than my home river, catch some musky which I don't have at home and watch the Bears win that evening. Plus I got paid to do all that, vacation day. The bacon, eggs and pancakes at the Pit Stop were like something I'll never taste. Quote
Rob G Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks for the update Norm. You're right about that fine breakfast, couldn't have said it better myself. Here's Stan the Man with his silky smooth southpaw cast, nice loop Stanley ! Quote
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