Jonn Graham Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 10 inches and articulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gillio Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Life size on my screen. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom L Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Nice fly Jonn. Buck-tail body and deer-hair head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 They won't eat what I'm tying John, hope you have better luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Yes, reverse-tied bucktail and a spun and stacked deer hair head. Had three follows last weekend, but could not get them to open their mouth. Hopefully this weekend and one of these flies will get it done.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Mike: Nice fly. I have made some similar with the lazer dub head. I wish I had some beautiful feathers like the ones you used. Expensive hackle feathers are not in the budget right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 yea I love those feathers. Jonn has used those on some poppers for me. Those barred stripes look great. That is a beautiful bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Nice one Jonn. I like the use of the peacock hearl, looks good. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Another one. classic colors with an Owner Cutting point hook on the back. Rattle included: 10 inches head to tip. Plan to hit it hard this weekend........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 I like that one, pretty much a Beauford fly minus the feathers, which is what I was fishing a lot up north. I love the spun head, pushes so much more water. I spin my heads pretty thin so they dont want to float so much, but would still bob a bit on my short pause between strips which is perfect with the sink tip. I like the colors. I fished orange, chartreuse, yellow, olive, etc. Didnt seem to make a huge difference, they would just strike as a reaction the second the fly hit the water. Now if I could only keep one hooked more than a second! Nice flies, happy huntings! Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I have just started using one rod with a full sinking line in order to get those big, packed deer hair flies down in the water column. Needed on the lakes that I am fishing. Getting into this muskie thing as now I have two ten weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I was just talking to a dude I met up north, I need a full sinking setup for a second rod. A lot of guys are using 12wt with wet tip express 450. He says it casts big doubles easier than a 10wt. I have just started using one rod with a full sinking line in order to get those big, packed deer hair flies down in the water column. Needed on the lakes that I am fishing. Getting into this muskie thing as now I have two ten weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Mike: I am guessing the 12 weight would cast the big doubles better. I almost went with a bigger rod when I was deciding which second rod to get. I like my initial 10 weight that I bought (Redington Predator) so much, I figured I would stick with another 10. I settled on the Echo Edge 10 weight with the Echo Ion reel. I must say, though I have only casted it one day, the Echo feels more like an 11 weight to me. Maybe it is the sinking line that makes it feel that way. It is much stiffer (faster) than my REdington Predator 10 weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I had the Edge in a 10 for a season John, it was stiff. I cast it probably a half dozen times than put it away. After that I went to the Beulah 10wt which had a similar stiffness, Ryan put a heavier line on the Beulah before the trip and now it casts much nicer. It's all in how you line a lot of these rods. Mike: I am guessing the 12 weight would cast the big doubles better. I almost went with a bigger rod when I was deciding which second rod to get. I like my initial 10 weight that I bought (Redington Predator) so much, I figured I would stick with another 10. I settled on the Echo Edge 10 weight with the Echo Ion reel. I must say, though I have only casted it one day, the Echo feels more like an 11 weight to me. Maybe it is the sinking line that makes it feel that way. It is much stiffer (faster) than my REdington Predator 10 weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks. Good to know someone else thinks the Edge is stiff. Maybe I need to get a heavier grain sinking line for that rod??? Is that what you would do? I am using 350 grain right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshw Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 If you want to stick to the Echo line of rods, I suggest you try an Echo 3S 10 weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Just spent 5 hours in a boat casting for muskies. With more practice with my new echo rod I think I will keep it. Got the feel for it with the 350 grain line and I was shooting line quite fine. No muskies to report...................not even a follow............ready to pull the remaining two hairs from the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Kral Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hey Jonn, if you get a chance sometime, try a 450 on that rod. Thats what I did with Mike's Beulah, and its a night and day difference. Never used that Echo, but the Beulah is a very fast. I was told by a couple guides up North to try the SA Wet Tip Express 450 grain, and I did. I couldnt be happier with the way it cast, and it could easily be used in a lake setting as well. It gets down quick, but you can control it on the river because you are stripping those flies quick. Its on sale on Amazon for $41, as of a couple days ago anyways. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Wow! That is a full 100 grains more than I am throwing right now. Hmmmmm. May have to try it. Starting to get more lines than I have rods and spare spools. I have the Outbound short floating, Rio Pike/Muskie line (intermediate), and the 350 grain sinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 My Rio pike completely fell apart after a handful of outings, it was immediately replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 When you say "fell apart" what do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 The coating completely came off in about a 1 foot section. My theory is this line gets a serious twist in it after fishing it for a while. The twist occurs in the handling section of the line and kinks at this point compromising the coating and line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Hmmmmmmmmmm. That is weird. I would say that the Rio pike/muskie line has been some of the least tangling line I have ever used. Do you have the floating or the intermediate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Intermediate, it's a known issue that the manufacturer and reps I've spoken with are aware of. The fix for the twisting is to every so often blast out a long cast to straighten the line. My line is not the first to come apart, I've chatted with a few guides that related similar issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Good to know. I will keep an eye on my rio pike/muskie line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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