Project to block Asian carp from entering Lake Michigan moves forward: ‘We’re essentially adding a very successful linebacker to our defense’

[Bart Durham]

 

Article from Chicago Tribune:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-brandon-road-asian-carp-20210202-gpksnlzlvbgfnmuty6qcciwa5m-story.html

[Jay D]

Just read that. I was reading an older thread regarding Hickory Creek, and someone had mentioned the Pilcher Park dam was potentially blocking the movement of carp upstream. I hadn't considered Asian carp. Hickory Creek flows into the Des Plaines right at the base (just below) of the Brandon Rd. Lock and Dam in Joliet. I'm not sure of the potential of an Asian carp migration through shallow riffles, but that would be one potential argument against the removal of the Pilcher Park dam.

[Bart Durham]

Good point Jay, same logic my apply to the Channahon dam on the Dupage River and Dayton dam on the Fox river.

[Mark K]

Does anyone know how far they have made it yet?  Are they already in the Des Plaines? The electric fence on the Sanitary and Ship Canal is at 135th Street (Romeoville Rd.) and visible from the bridge over it. I don't know how true this is but someone told me that you can see them from there.  Also east of there are is 12 miles of physical fencing (from 135th street to Romeoville rd. to at least Willow Springs rd. ) that the Army Corp installed.  I think this is to keep potential invasives in the Des Plaines from getting into the canal. .  Are they already there?  

[Jay D]

The article states that they haven't made much of a migration past I-55. I'm guessing they're in there. I know one was caught out of the Kankakee a few years back, maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

[Mark K]

17 hours ago, Jay D said:

The article states that they haven't made much of a migration past I-55. I'm guessing they're in there. I know one was caught out of the Kankakee a few years back, maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

Yeah, it says no major moves.  If the only thing holding them back in the CSSC is the electric fence then yeah they would have access to the DesPlaines. 

[Kev-mo]

On 2/5/2021 at 9:45 AM, Mark K said:

Does anyone know how far they have made it yet?  Are they already in the Des Plaines? The electric fence on the Sanitary and Ship Canal is at 135th Street (Romeoville Rd.) and visible from the bridge over it. I don't know how true this is but someone told me that you can see them from there.  Also east of there are is 12 miles of physical fencing (from 135th street to Romeoville rd. to at least Willow Springs rd. ) that the Army Corp installed.  I think this is to keep potential invasives in the Des Plaines from getting into the canal. .  Are they already there?  

the 2018 Des Plaines basin survey from the idnr/iepa says no

[bill sheridan]

Two weeks ago about a dozen guys were netting carp in the Starved Rock pool in Ottawa. I stopped and watched them for around 15 minutes I asked one of them if they had made dent in the numbers. He answered  That there was no end to the carp.