Rob G

Let's just hope they get the roads clear.  We got another inch or two tonight and IL DOT shows Ogden to west of Mahomet as covered with ice and snow.

Rob

Fred, if you have a bucktail laying around, please bring it along, if not, I'm sure we'll have you covered.

John B is going to be showing off a variation on the slumpbuster and we'll tackle Gunnar's predator bucktail deceiver.  If you're interested in something else, please speak up.

Rob

Much better if you hold it at a winery because at least then you would have plenty of cork to create poppers with.

3 hours ago, tjtroester said:

silver minnows today then a housefly type pattern then a soft hackle pattern I found in an old book. timothy

 

Tim, can you post some photos?  If not yours, then from somewhere else online that depict those creations that you're striving for.

Colin, looking good !  Those sparkle minnows are one of my favorite smallmouth and white bass patterns.

Ok, so what's everyone tying right now on these cold winter evenings in anticipation of warmer weather ahead ?  It doesn't have to be a smallmouth fly, it can be any fly for any species or even a technique or new material that you would like to share.  As always, thank you for your input and pictures are always welcome. 

Rob 

Mike, I'm thinking that bucktail deceiver would be a dandy for the group to work on at our upcoming, 

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Central Illinois Fly Tying gathering coming up here in less than two weeks.

January 27th 1pm - 4pm  Bloomington, IL

Well Done Mike !  

Do you have any idea how long it took to create that Beast?  Since the amount of time I have to fish a fly is inversely proportional to the amount of time it takes for me to tie said fly, I would probably lose that one before I even got on the water.

I would like to tie one in a 4" specimen, can it be done easily and still keep it's shape?

Central Illinois Fly Tying Gathering will be held on January 27th, Sunday, and run from 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM.  The location of the event will be in Bloomington, IL at the firehouse on 1911 Hamilton Rd. 61704.   Afterwards, the group will likely adjourn to Famous Dave's for a little BBQ and beverage.  All are welcome, both ISA and Non ISA members alike, as well as both the beginner and the more seasoned fly tyer. There is no cost to attend this event. 

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Another simple blood knot tool that I would use while on the water because of its small size making for easier carry is a toothpick.   This fellow already has a quick video so I won't go into it but it works well on thinner test line.  Heavier line is generally more "coily" and more difficult to work with.

I agree with John, the double Uni knot is a fine one for connecting two pieces of line and the only reason I don't use it more is that I can tie a double or triple surgeon's knot in less than half the time (for me that is).  One comment on the double Uni, don't feel like you have to pass the tag end of each line thru the loop 4 times as is often stated when attaching two heavier pieces such as 20 lb to 30 lb.  Three passes is more than adequate and if you're careful, you can get by with just two passes in order to create a smaller knot, meaning you might catch less foreign material on the water.  You're not likely going to break off your leader at these heavier line junctions anyway,  since your line will probably break off at your fly and only very occasionally at the tippet junction, in my case the 10 lb to 20 lb test.  A while back I experimented with coating each knot of my leader with a drop of UV glue and rotating the line horizontally to create a smooth football like covering and then curing with UV light.  The knots looked neater but didn't hold any better and hung up just as much "stuff".  YMMV

Colin, grabbed a dozen greenies on the hollow fly today (it is Halloween after all, I know I know but close enough, what's a vowel among friends) 

Are you coming over to Champaign for the fly tie on Nov. 10th ?  We can work on some flies if you do.

Rob

Hey Colin,

over the last two years, these hollow flies have become one of my very favorites for largemouth, smallmouth and large white bass.  Simple to tie and you basically need only one material, craft fur or buck tail.   As seen below, I tend to favor the craft fur and I've quit adding eyes to the fly since it seems to be just as effective without them.  I'm now using mostly Mustad or Gamy Stinger hooks in size 2  such as the Mustad C52S BLN (these earlier flies below were on a size 4).  The erratic darting motion as with a wounded minnow is the key to its success.   We'll tie some up this winter and btw, think of heading over to Springfield and Anglers Workshop with Jim Z. and me later this fall in order to stock up on materials.  Rob 

Mark, I'm sure someone skilled could land larger fish on 4 lbs, but me, nope, I used to use 8lb test for years and lost a couple super fish when they made that quick turn down stream in a strong current.  I switched over to 10lb, a 25% increase in strength and feel I can horse them around a little easier and in the end, I just feel more confident.  Now I'm wondering if I could get by with 12 lb test since the loop knots which I often use for my flies, are not nearly as strong as more standard knots. 

Scott,  I'm not saying that all.  I have a lot of respect for your, Terry, and Paul's fish catching abilities and want to know what tools you are using to be successful.   I know a lot of pro bass fishermen will not use anything but fluoro and so it's all interesting to me.  Rob  

So some are using a braid like Spiderwire, even in clear, low and slow water conditions ?  

Mark, if I were to use 4 lb test, the smallies down this way would be giggling and drawing straws to see who gets to break me off first, Ha

What pound monofilament are you guys using most of the time.  Do you change it up depending on water clarity ?  Just curious,  thanks.

It's a shame that we didn't speak beforehand because I could have given you that mono line if you didn't mind it in their greenish color.  Btw, I know the traditional knot used is a blood knot but for years I've used a double surgeon's knot as it is easier to tie and is smaller.  Also my Lefty  formula is simplified as well, 40,30,20,10 but turns over large flies well.  Eveeybody has their own special recipe, ha.

John, if you truly believe that we sometimes think alike while on the water, I can think of no higher compliment given to any fisherman, seriously. 

As to those white bass on a fly rod, I spent some time down at Lake of the Ozarks this summer and was catching those huge fighting whites on a hollow fly and having a ball. 

I whipped up a few more Crease flies last night using standard 2 mm foam, a mallard feather for the tail, all on a Gamy off set shank #2 worm hook.  About 10 years ago I purchased those Crease fly cutters for our fly tying group down this way and only wish I had gotten the one size larger, the 1/0 rather than the #2 though it seems to work OK.  I used to for years would coat each fly with epoxy or Sally Hansens Hard as Nails but have been leaving it off recently and the flies still hold up pretty well.

This smallie and several of his friends today voted for my Crease Fly and I probably have to agree with them.  It seems that an erratic wounded minnow imitation is often hard to ignore.

49 minutes ago, John Gillio said:

https://goo.gl/images/kBzov3

For the carp lovers out there.

LOL, those gents looked to be having too much fun there ?

Phil, have you heard whether they plan on removing that formerly hidden second low head dam just below the Gilbert street bridge that you have pictured above?  Btw, went down there today nosing around and taking photos.  No fishing as water rolling pretty well with all the rain we have gotten in the last 24 hours.  Did see some nice carp moving around down there, "Calling Johnnie G. "

Watch your back cast !

Phil, when they remove the other damn on the North Fork inside Ellsworth Park, that River will become a small Creek the majority of the year. I'll sneak down there shortly and take a look at it the 2nd hidden dam but i know that just removing part of the main dam that the water level has really dropped

No doubt in my mind.