Rob G Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Does anyone remember which adhesive Greg liked to use to get those flat 2-D eyes to adhere to the foam popper bodies. I remember one was used in the automotive industry and I thought there was another but you know, old age and all.......... now what was I talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 alot of tyers use goop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Rich, I think that was one of them mentioned. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Flyrodder Miller Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Rich, I think that was one of them mentioned. Thanks I found a few that work: GOOP Gel-Type Super Glue (fast setting and easier to work wtih than regular Super Glue) Z-Poxy Epoxy In addition to these I ran across one that works well and it's available from Michael's that's called Beacon's 3-IN-1 Advanced Craft Glue. It's fast drying, adheres quickly, and isn't thin and runny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjtroester Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 rob, greg used stix-on contact all- purpose adhesive by power poxy for eyes. we talked about marine goop or plumbers goop as a good adhesive for attaching felts to boots. tjtroester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I found the power poxy in the automotive section at Farm and Fleet, just as Greg mentioned. Jury is still out if I like it better than marine/plumber goop. I will have to see how well the eyes stay on when the fly is worked on the end of a fly line. I will say one thing about the power poxy, you need to hold the eye in place for at least 30 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Jonn, I used Stix-On Contact many years ago. It seems they thinned it down from what I used to use. I think it's still the same stuff, but it is a little thinner than it used to be. Thing is, when I used to use Flex-a-ment (available at most fly shops), the eyes would get knocked off pretty easily. Also, if you opened, and used it, it would dry out after just a couple months. That was common enough that they also sold Flex-a-ment thinner, to rejouvenate the Flexament. I never have to worry about that with the Stix-On Contact. And, at a $1.79/tube, it's a the cheaper AND stronger alternative. I have not used Goop BUT...Flexament IS thinned down Goop!!! Got that info from Tom Yocum (fly shop owner) about 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjensen Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Another thing I've used quite a bit is Softex. After completing the fly and applying stick-on eyes, I'll dip the fly head in the softex and let it dry. The stuff dries to a flat finish, which I don't really care for, but once under water I suppose it doesn't make a difference. The stuff is flexible and tough as nails. The downside is that the stuff tends to thicken in the jar over time. The solution: It is toulene based. I bought a gallon can of toulene at Menard's and can thin it to whatever consistancy I need. I can thin it a lot & use it in place of Flexament to coat feathers. Stinks bad, though. Good for a cheap high, if you're so inclined... Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not quite as sweet as Greg's but I think it will fish. BTW, the Goop seems like it takes quite a while to cure, didn't care for that as much, it's probably better if not in a rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Not quite as sweet as Greg's but I think it will fish. BTW, the Goop seems like it takes quite a while to cure, didn't care for that as much, it's probably better if not in a rush. I think that it would work just fine, where I use it. Though, I think that an Angel Hair tail would get ripped up rather quickly. And, might foul around the hook shank rather easily. I use bucktail for the reason that it doesn't foul as bad as softer materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Good point Greg, maybe I'll tie up a couple with white buck tail, and just mix in a little flash. I was looking for that sputtering, glittering minnow dance on the top water. My standard black popper bodies, I tend to use a couple pair of hackle which imitate swimming legs so I'm looking to do something different with this one, more minnowish. question: if I use a ultra fine sharpie in red to make a " ( " for a gill, do I have to cover that area with a sealant or will it hold up to the water with rinsing out. Mind you it's going to end up in a bush or tree well before it probably makes it to the water but just in case I get lucky....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 the new material dna holo fusion would be a good choice for a popper tail. has both flash and movement. rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airbornemike Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Not quite as sweet as Greg's but I think it will fish. BTW, the Goop seems like it takes quite a while to cure, didn't care for that as much, it's probably better if not in a rush. Rob I second the DNA, try it if you find the angel hair isn't durable or stiff enough. I also mix it with other materials for tail applications, but the DNA works niceby itself for streamers like clousers and bend back style flys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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