Mike Clifford Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Watching it now- FASCINATING! Watch Webcast: http://www.epa.gov/greatlakes/live Federal agencies will hold a public hearing today (Friday, February 12) on Asian carp in Chicago, from 3-6pm. The Asian Carp Regional Coordinating Committee will discuss plans and get recommendations on Asian carp control efforts.The committee will answer questions and listen to comments from thepublic. PrairieRivers Network staffer Traci Barkley and board member Clark Bullard will be there in person to urge the committee to act quickly to stop the spread of Asian carp and other invaders between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Clifford Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Seeing some of the same people I met and worked with at the recent Conservation Congress stepping to the microphone to give comments. FINALLY, after all the people that have a stake in keeping the O'Brien lock open came up to speak, somebody stated the exact reason why it won't work. I've supported the position of the IDNR in keeping the lock open for the obvious reason- the Grand Calumet offers a free flow of water to the Lake for all species of fish, including Asian Carp. This occurs just BEFORE the lock. How many people ranting on the blogs and in newspaper commentaries urging them to close the locks have looked at a map? My guess is very, very, few....if any. The hearing has gotten exciting a couple times as they almost had to drag some people from the mic. Their crime? Going over their allotment of exactly ONE MINUTE for comments. Pathetic. Invite stakeholders to speak and give them 60 seconds to state their case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Clifford Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Next meeting is this Weds (17th) from Ypsilanti MI. Expect them to be for closing the locks. Seems the charter captains and marinas in other states have no need for brotherhood in their profession, judging by the comments from them in the webcast. Let's take a closer look at one particular lock in question. Get rid of the white info box, to start with. (Click anywhere on the map) Follow the horseshoe from left to right. You will notice a channel moving toward the east near the bottom of the curve. That flows to Lake Michigan. Continue following it around the bend toward the north. The white lines near the top and off to the left are the O'Brien Lock....which also flows to Lake Michigan beyond there. Any questions? <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Grand+Calumet+River,+Burnham,+Cook,+Illinois&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=23.761683,36.5625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZRvewIdUu3H-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=Grand+Calumet+River&ll=41.643924,-87.560878&spn=0.021808,0.067892&t=h&z=14&output=embed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&q=Grand+Calumet+River,+Burnham,+Cook,+Illinois&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=23.761683,36.5625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZRvewIdUu3H-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=Grand+Calumet+River&ll=41.643924,-87.560878&spn=0.021808,0.067892&t=h&z=14" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene f collins Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Mike, I really hope your not saying that the asian carp will get into the great lakes. I could not view the video, so im not sure what they spoke of. But I hope that congress comes up with a plan soon before all is lost. Why hasnt Illinois gone after the people who had these carp in there catfish pond? These fish are at the mouth of the fox. Probably already headed up the rock (no need to restock the rock) the spread of these fish is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Clifford Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 The next meeting on Wednesday will be online for viewing as well: http://www.asiancarp.org/regionalcoordination/ Your question about going after the fish farmer was brought up to Marc Miller today at the Tinley Show. Basically, it was never an option. Don't forget, we had an administration at the time that had no desire to improve our fisheries to begin with. The people we have now are clawing their way out of some seriously screwed up policies bestowed upon them. What you are seeing now is a great number of entities working to figure out a plan to keep the species from migrating to the Great Lakes. How do you suppose they will accomplish this, with so many ideas and plans on the table? That is one of the reasons we have public hearings, but so many divergent opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene f collins Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 That's true! Thanks block head blago. can we sue our former govennor for destroying the Idnr? ruining our water & potentially the great lakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronk Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Next meeting is this Weds (17th) from Ypsilanti MI. Expect them to be for closing the locks. Seems the charter captains and marinas in other states have no need for brotherhood in their profession, judging by the comments from them in the webcast. Let's take a closer look at one particular lock in question. Get rid of the white info box, to start with. (Click anywhere on the map) Follow the horseshoe from left to right. You will notice a channel moving toward the east near the bottom of the curve. That flows to Lake Michigan. Continue following it around the bend toward the north. The white lines near the top and off to the left are the O'Brien Lock....which also flows to Lake Michigan beyond there. Any questions? <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Grand+Calumet+River,+Burnham,+Cook,+Illinois&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=23.761683,36.5625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZRvewIdUu3H-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=Grand+Calumet+River&ll=41.643924,-87.560878&spn=0.021808,0.067892&t=h&z=14&output=embed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&q=Grand+Calumet+River,+Burnham,+Cook,+Illinois&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=23.761683,36.5625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FZRvewIdUu3H-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=Grand+Calumet+River&ll=41.643924,-87.560878&spn=0.021808,0.067892&t=h&z=14" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> Mike Without trying to make sense of the map I gather your point is that leaving that lock open will not in anyway better enable the carp getting into the Lake? Whatever needs to be done had better be done asap to do any good if it's not already too late.Otherwise we're just fiddling while Rome burns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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