Mike G Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 In the new Cabela's Fly Fishing catalog, this 60 deg hook is listed with the fly tying hooks. "Great for tying flies with dumbell or beadchain eyse." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 that should make it easier to pick up. also heard that targus and gamagatzu are about to sell a similar hook. rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I have been tying Hairy Fodders on EC 413 forever. They are readily available from www.do-itfishing.com in many sizes and also 410 freshwater hooks if you don't want plated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 i ordered 300 hooks from do it molds .com and they are out of 2 of 3 sizes. at least a 2 week backup they said rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I had the back order problem about this time last year with Do-It. They said that the manufacturer was out of stock. I wonder if all the fly shops put in orders about this time and knock down the supplies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rich mc Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 the guy i talked to said eagle claw didnt sort them to 100 packs and they had to buy a whole truckload and store and sort them. rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asherman Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I've been buying the 413 Eagle Claw hooks from Cabelas for several years. A pack of 100 lasts me a while. The Gamakatsu 29160 sixty degree hooks are sharper out of the box and are not quite as heavy as the Eagle Claw 413 hooks. I like the Gamakatsu's better for flies tied in smaller sizes like number 2, but they cost more than the Eagle Claw 413's. Here's a link for the Gammy hooks if anyone is interested. Gammy 60 Degree Hooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airbornemike Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Thats the one thing I dislike about the EC 400 series is the gauge is very thick, I'm gonna try some gammys and mustad hooks that looked about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKollmann Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Speaking of hooks for tying smallmouth flies, can someone provide a simple explanation regarding the methodology for determining size and thickness of hooks? Have checked various websites associated with fly hook comparisons (i.e, Mustad, Gamakatsu, Tiemco and Diichi, and found the codings in the comparisons to be confusing (1X fine standard dry; nymph 2X short and 2X strong; multi-use 3X strong). To compound the issue further, in Tim Holshlag's book "Smallmouth Fly Fishing", he references various hook sizes differently for his top 20 smallmouth flies by citing hooks by shank dimension and gap dimension. To top it off, in Lefty Kreh's DVD "Handcrafting Effective Flies", he cites yet another approach for hooks . . . namely, 3x long hook; standard hook length; hook with wide gap. Would appreciate a Hooks 101 summary before I commence purchasing hooks on my new vice for smallmouth, largemouth, crappies and panfish. Thanks . . . most appreciative! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airbornemike Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Speaking of hooks for tying smallmouth flies, can someone provide a simple explanation regarding the methodology for determining size and thickness of hooks? Have checked various websites associated with fly hook comparisons (i.e, Mustad, Gamakatsu, Tiemco and Diichi, and found the codings in the comparisons to be confusing (1X fine standard dry; nymph 2X short and 2X strong; multi-use 3X strong). To compound the issue further, in Tim Holshlag's book "Smallmouth Fly Fishing", he references various hook sizes differently for his top 20 smallmouth flies by citing hooks by shank dimension and gap dimension. To top it off, in Lefty Kreh's DVD "Handcrafting Effective Flies", he cites yet another approach for hooks . . . namely, 3x long hook; standard hook length; hook with wide gap. Would appreciate a Hooks 101 summary before I commence purchasing hooks on my new vice for smallmouth, largemouth, crappies and panfish. Thanks . . . most appreciative! Problem is Steve there is no standard sizing of hooks in the industry, the consumer is left to compare each makers hooks, alot of times they aren't even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Daiichi has a great 60 degree hook as well. I bought mine from The Fly Fishers fly shop in Milwaukee. Very sharp hook!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I've been buying the 413 Eagle Claw hooks from Cabelas for several years. A pack of 100 lasts me a while. The Gamakatsu 29160 sixty degree hooks are sharper out of the box and are not quite as heavy as the Eagle Claw 413 hooks. I like the Gamakatsu's better for flies tied in smaller sizes like number 2, but they cost more than the Eagle Claw 413's. Here's a link for the Gammy hooks if anyone is interested. Gammy 60 Degree Hooks BTW, this website vendor is no longer functional so don't try and place an order like I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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