Norm M Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 What makes the Subwalk different than other lures is that it is designed to sink to the 2 foot level and no more. You can let it drift with the current, twitch-pause-twitch, walk the dog or any combination thereof. Today was a prime example of how it can be more productive than other lures. I was out fishing an area with ratllebaits, counting them down just above the mossy bottom and getting a mixed bag of smallies and walleyes. I noticed a mayfly hatch start and saw the rings of feeding fish. I knew from past expeience that the bigger fish would turn on and start feeding up on the smaller fish eating the bugs. I switched to the Subwalk and ended up with 11 very large smallies taking the Subwalk as it was sinking. I believe that as they were already keyed into taking fish coming down from the surface that it was the best possible presentation to use. To put that notion to the test I switched from the Subwalk to a topwater prop bait, flukes, swim jigs and rattle baits. The topwater prop bait was totally ignored, it may have been to big for the fish feeding on the bugs and the larger fish apparently felt no need to come all the way to the surface. I went with an unweighted fluke first and managed a couple more but they were kinda medium sized fish. The weighted fluke I next used had the same results, some fish but smaller. In neither case was the bite as frequent as the Subwalk. I tied on a swim jig tipped with a Stiko and kept it higher in the water column, it produced only 1 fish but it was a little larger than the fluke fish. I went to a rattlebait and fished it up higher in the water column but it did not get a sniff either, prolly had to work it too fast to keep it up. I went back to the Subwalk as it turned out just before the hatch ended and got the final 2 of the 11 big bass.Now then, for me, that's enough to show me that the Subwalk was the presentation that best matched the feeding pattern the larger fish desired. So far as I know I'm the only guy on my flow throwing the Subwalk. I don't know if the way it works is unique enough to out last the burnout factor once the fish start seeing it a lot but until that day comes[hopefully never] it has earned a spot in my rotation based on it's performance so far this year. If you are on a smaller flow and/or have lots of over hanging trees[and toss Sammys into them ] it does cast like a bullet so you'll have to watch yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bterrill Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Great tips, Norm. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-mo Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 So far as I know I'm the only guy on my flow throwing the Subwalk. I just haven't made it down there yet but that should change in June Thanks for the tips, makes me think more when I'm out there. Kevin (kev-mo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trybul Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Thanks,you guys answered my question. Now that you've described it I think I've even seem one in action. I ocean fishing with my cousin in Florida over the winter. The seas were rough that day so we into the protected areas of a bay that was miles of 4-5 foot flats with weed growing up 1-2 feet from the bottom. My cousin was throwing a lure just as you descibed that was a subsurface lipless hardbait. He said he likes it because it worked just above the weeds and it worked good on snook and sea trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallieJonze Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Norm, you make it sound so easy...Like how Jimmy Page makes playing the guitar look easy. Thanks for the tips. It's like a mini-smallie school when reading these posts of yours. JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm M Posted May 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'm kinda enjoying this type of post/discussion. Let's me talk about stuff that I don't really feel like writing an article about at that point in time. One day I may get inspired to go article length with some of these ideas. I guess the best part is the feedback and different points of view and/or ideas that you don't get with an article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kend Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 >>>What makes the Subwalk different than other lures is that it is designed to sink to the 2 foot level and no more. <<< ??? I must have one that is inferior--- it only goes down to about 12" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallieJonze Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Ken, You got these things at G.A.T.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pts9889 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 FYI- I picked up one at Dick's for $7+. Right now they have 20% off on Rapalas. They are $9.99 at Cabela's. Going give it shot Monday. Good fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonn Graham Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm............that is weird. I ordered my Subwalks online from Cabelas and they were only a little over $7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm M Posted June 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 One additional tip, if you miss some fish , open up the gap on the hooks. Ken, What kind of line are you using ? I haven't had any problems with either McCoys or Trilene XT. If it's one of those braid types that float that may affect it's sink rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kend Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 .............. Ken, What kind of line are you using ? I haven't had any problems with either McCoys or Trilene XT. If it's one of those braid types that float that may affect it's sink rate. If an angler is missing fish, or just feel taps or bumps, the fish are just bumping or rolling on the lure. The fish has its mouth closed, and often times just bumps or rolls on a lure, to determine if its edible. This is a common occurance with top water lures. Perhaps 65-100lb superbraid would have an effect on a lures running depth. I use 10-30lb Masterbraid, which has neglible effect on a bass lures running depth. I also use 6-8lb Cortlands Endurance supermono. The Subwalk is a derivative of a lure by Lucky Craft. Lucky Craft got national attention, and Rapala jumped on the band wagon with a look-a-like. Common occurance in the fishing tackle market. The Lucky Craft lure has premium grade supersharp hooks, and don't need changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineman Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Cabela's is selling the Subwalk for $7.29 in the store; same price as in their catalog. It's not a sale price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kend Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Ken, You got these things at G.A.T.? Yes. $7.99 (MSRP $9.99) -10% ISA member discount = $7.19 Tax 7% vs 8.75 - 10% at other stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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